Martin Butcher @martinb ?

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"Just had a cold call from BT sale.. “Hi, just checking you are getting the best broadband available!” I replied “oh good you can give me 100Mbps then?” - “no we can give you 8Mbps - it comes down the [...]" · View

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  • Martin Butcher posted a new activity comment:   2 months ago · View

    That is an interesting observation! The Eden declaration is a good place to start. Unfortunately since then the process has become rather stagnated in the bureaucracy of procurement - some of this is a necessary evil. This is however a race - not to infinity - but to get the first real super fast networks installed (to solve not just Broadband but also TV and Mobile). The areas with the most active and organised champions will get there first. There is both public and private funds available to help and no reason for an area to delay, Its all about getting a sufficient number of people to sign up to the process. An overall plan for Cumbria is certainly needed and I have offered to assist in doing this provided that the aim is the highest possible future proof network and not the lowest possible denominator. To do this we first need to show what IS possible so that people can be convinced to sign up in their masses.

    In reply to - David Blaylock posted an update in the group WiFiPie & CHIPS.. With everything. : This project has been running for quite some time before I came involved in it, (as a Broadband Champion). Is there anywhere I can go to see what the object and rules of the exercise are as it currently appears to be small [...] · View
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  • Martin Butcher posted a new activity comment:   4 months ago · View

    A big problem faced by mobile operators is that they need at least twice the bandwidth - one lot for the subscriber link and one lot for the back haul. If the back haul issue could be solved by getting fibre closer to the village pump for instance then yes you can build a lot of masts and illuminate the valleys very well. So Fibre to the mast is a very good solution for the short term while people figure out how to get fibre everywhere else. But if we have fibre in the village why stop there? Its a question of how much money is available and which order to do things. Absolutely we are trying to solve connectivity for mobile, television, business and domestic. we are however trying to get something that will look forward 10, 15 even 25 years into the future not just to solve the immediate problems. In Patterdale we have had problems just getting back haul to an existing mast at Hartsop. This is just for voice calls let alone anything more fancy. We eventually got Ofcom to designate this as a not spot. Getting fibre to this mast is a priority for us but this may still be precluded by the new Ofcom rules for access to ducts and pole! Of course once the masts have fibre we also need the bandwidth to be much cheaper and without the rather low usage limits imposed by mobile operators. The capital cost of building and running masts is not low. Once fibre is in the ground its low cost all the way. Cost is also a reason for the low take up - broadband only took off when it became as cheap as dial up had been. Another is the lack of services needing bandwidth. No one really had fibre to the home on their radar until iPlayer etc. came along. You will have to read some of my other posts to get a flavour of what is coming.
    FttMast yes please but not at the expense of getting on with FttH/P.

    In reply to - Phil Thompson posted an update in the group WiFiPie & CHIPS.. With everything. : Found this - ”FTTH is often said to be ‘future-proof’, but the future appears to have veered off in a different direction – one in which wireless devices and services capture new consumer spend while take-up of NGA-based services is troublingly low.” Analysys [...] · View
  • Martin Butcher posted a new activity comment:   4 months ago · View

    Good comments but needs a response.

    There is no doubt that fixed and mobile wireless devices will continue to dominate in our lives. However we are also seeing tremendous growth of the use of wireless spectrum in our homes as well. The data rates for mobile devices in our homes now vastly exceed the current typical wired connections to our homes. Wireless devices have been under continuous development with incredible advances in modulation and coding. However wireless spectrum that is useful for mobile communications and in home use is limited to the bands that are also used for other services such as UHF TV - this is why e.g. the digital switchover is important to maximise the use for this valuable resource. The other problem is that we have rapidly hit the Shannon limit - modern communications have reached within a very small margin of this fundamental limit of how much information can be carried by a given bandwidth (ask me if you need a fuller explanation of this!). This means that there is a finite amount of data that can be transferred. Already the use of smart phones is stretching the networks to the limit. Early adopters think - hey this is great we can watch TV on our mobile phone - when everyone tries it some will be disappointed. The same problem has seen before with the introduction of new networks - but very soon fair usage policies are needed to set limits.
    So is wireless important YES does it replace the need for FTTH networks within a few years NO we need both. At the Rhged conference this was underlined very clearly by the speaker from Blackberry - who obviously cannot be accused of bias. Wireless is brilliant but it has its limits.

    In reply to - Phil Thompson posted an update in the group WiFiPie & CHIPS.. With everything. : Found this - ”FTTH is often said to be ‘future-proof’, but the future appears to have veered off in a different direction – one in which wireless devices and services capture new consumer spend while take-up of NGA-based services is troublingly low.” Analysys [...] · View
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  • What is depressing is that this is still an argument. History is useful. While developing the first generation cable modems (56Mbps/2Mbps) for a major US company back in the late 90′s we also looked at the physics behind alternative technologies. This was a time when 100Mbps services were starting to be rolled out to apartment [...]

  • Martin Butcher and AvatarLindsey Annison are now friends   4 months, 1 week ago · View

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  • Martin Butcher commented on the blog post Broadband, NGA, FTTC and the laws of unforeseen consequences   4 months, 2 weeks ago · View

    It may interest you that Lancaster University is one of the partners in the P2P next network. Barry Forde funded the IPTV kit that my company supplied and installed and this is used as the source of the BBC streams that feed the project. Lancaster are responsible for the living lab part of the project [...]

  • Martin Butcher commented on the blog post Broadband, NGA, FTTC and the laws of unforeseen consequences   4 months, 3 weeks ago · View

    Will we get left behind? Well thats interesting. What would have happened if Iron smelting had not been perfected in Barrow, if water had not been transported to Manchester, if the first railways had not been built from Manchester to Liverpool and from Carlise to Newcastle, the link across Shap and then later Motorways - [...]

  • Martin Butcher commented on the blog post Broadband, NGA, FTTC and the laws of unforeseen consequences   4 months, 3 weeks ago · View

    OK I’ll go on.. My Daughter wanted some help with her Physics A level revision.. not words you will hear too often today sadly! Its not about what we are doing today its about what we WILL be doing in the near future. There has been an explosive change in the volumes of data being [...]

  • Martin Butcher commented on the blog post Broadband, NGA, FTTC and the laws of unforeseen consequences   4 months, 3 weeks ago · View

    Symmetrical access was always part of the original definition of broadband. This was also implied in the peering that shaped the early internet. There are two types of speed requirement peak and sustained. It is important that both are understood. Over a 24 hour period most users consume more than they contribute - however with [...]

  • Martin Butcher and AvatarKate Norman are now friends   4 months, 3 weeks ago · View

  • Martin Butcher commented on the blog post Broadband, NGA, FTTC and the laws of unforeseen consequences   4 months, 3 weeks ago · View

    Hang on! If I were a service provider.. (oh by the way I am). Would I choose a brand new community supported 1Gbps fibre network using state of the art technology or a cobbled together network based on 100 year old infrastructure? Three guesses! No one is suggesting building poor networks - just reducing the [...]

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  • Martin Butcher posted an update:   5 months ago · View

    Just had a cold call from BT sale.. ”Hi, just checking you are getting the best broadband available!”
    I replied ”oh good you can give me 100Mbps then?” - ”no we can give you 8Mbps - it comes down the phone line…”
    ”Oh no fibre then?!”

    What I should have asked is - ”So I can get 8Mbps at 5pm when all the school children come home?”

    Next time..

    PS. My ISPs are Kencomp in Staveley and Talk Talk in Patterdale - I get on very well with Paul in Kendal and my Indian friends (who are very polite and helpful!)

    • Miles Mandelson · 2 months ago

      Great Asby residents regularly get calls from BT offering broadband despite the presence of a TPON connection to the exchange that precludes broadband absolutely! And they won’t be told.

  • Barry very useful information. The concentration on line speed has always been a red herring. Since even the latest report defines broadband (wrongly) as “delivering greater speed than narrowband i.e. 128Kbps” it really does go to show that no one has been sold broadband at all - we have all been robbed and should trust [...]

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